From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, RATWARE_MS_HASH,RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Tim Behrendsen" Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/08/20 Message-ID: <01bb8ead$930e60a0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 175344477 references: <01bb8c89$9023e3e0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <4v9nei$kjf@zeus.orl.mmc.com> <01bb8df1$2e19d420$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <4vard9$9rj@cnn.Princeton.EDU> content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 organization: A-SIS mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-08-20T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Tim Hollebeek wrote in article <4vard9$9rj@cnn.Princeton.EDU>... > Tim Behrendsen (tim@airshields.com) wrote: > > : Well, all that is certainly true if you intentionally go out > : and find the most complex, arcane architecture you can find. > : If you start with a nice, simple one like a 6809 or 68000 or > : something, then implementation details are practially nil. > > Of course, any modern CPU is going to have tons of things like > register windows, delay slots, and pipelines. I'd hate to manage that > stuff directly. The future appears to be RISC and/or superscalar, and > both are a pain to program by hand. Of course, I could be wrong about > that. But I do know one thing: Whatever chip will be in my computer > 10 years from now, it will run my C code without modification. Can > you say that about your assembly? Nope, which is why I don't do my application programming in assembly. Doesn't change the fact that architectures are still implemented in assembly, and the fact that assembly is a much better tool to learn from because of the simple nature (even though performance optimizations can be complex). > BTW, where do you find the time for 10 posts a day? I don't have time > to *read* everything you post :-) Well, it helps to be able to read fast and type fast. Its one of the benefits to being naturally impatient. :-) -- Tim Behrendsen (tim@airshields.com)