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From: "Tim Behrendsen" <tim@airshields.com>
Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn
 C or Pascal?]
Date: 1996/08/13
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Mike Rubenstein <miker3@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<320fe7f4.7066811@nntp.ix.netcom.com>...
> I've probably been helped more by my knowledge of about 25 higer level
> languages.
> 
> Obviously, all other things being equal, it is better to know assembly
> language that to not know it.  But all other things are seldom equal.
> I suspect that most beginning programmers would gain much more from
> learning some different HLLs.  Given a choice, I'd strongly recommend
> one learn LISP, APL, Icon, or any of a few dozen other languages to
> learning assembly language.

We have the world that you want.  This is CS curriculum today; are
you happy with the level of expertise of the graduates?  I'm not,
based on my experience with trying to hire them.  If you're not
either, what do you think the reason is?

-- Tim Behrendsen (tim@airshields.com)