From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, RATWARE_MS_HASH,RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,baaf5f793d03d420 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fc89c,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gidfc89c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,97188312486d4578 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,6154de2e240de72a X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: "Tim Behrendsen" Subject: Re: What's the best language to start with? [was: Re: Should I learn C or Pascal?] Date: 1996/08/02 Message-ID: <01bb8023$4bfe7a80$96ee6fcf@timhome2>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 171889675 references: <01bb73e3.1c6a0060$6bf467ce@dave.iceslimited.com> <1996Jul20.124025.122789@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <01bb7b06$311fabc0$87ee6fce@timpent.airshields.com> <01bb7da1$323102a0$96ee6fcf@timhome2> <31FDFB6C.2781E494@att.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 organization: A-SIS mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-08-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Robert Dewar wrote in article ... > Paul said > > "We have had CS students on placement here after 2 years of study who > didn't even understand hexedecimal !." > > Perhaps they might have understood hexadecimal > ^ > > yes, yes, I know, I make more spelling errors than most on newsgroup > posts because I type in furiously and do not bother to correct, but > this one was hard to resist :-) > > I actually don't find it so terrible for CS students with two years > of study not to know hexadecimal notation. I would be more disturbed > if they did not know and understand what an abstract data type was, > or what call by reference means. Yes, but if they don't even know what hexadecimal is (or by extension the fundamentals), do they *really* understand what an abstract data type is, or what call by reference means? I'm sure they could quote the book definition, but do they really *understand* it? -- Tim Behrendsen (tim@airshields.com)