From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, LOTS_OF_MONEY,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,54c513170bafd693 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "David Kristola" Subject: Re: where can we get a job with ada Date: 2000/02/05 Message-ID: <01HW.B4C1346100072D2408A24140@news.pacbell.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 581861631 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <01HW.B4BFC2820005B06B08A24140@news.pacbell.net> <20000204073443.24976.00001288@ng-ci1.aol.com> <87euk0$c93$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: nnrp3-w.snfc21.pbi.net 949744730 63.194.212.92 (Sat, 05 Feb 2000 01:58:50 PST) Organization: heaps of stacks MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: David95037@see-my.sig NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2000 01:58:50 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 2000-02-05T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 9:27:03 -0800, Brian Rogoff wrote (in message ): > > On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Ted Dennison wrote: >> In article <20000204073443.24976.00001288@ng-ci1.aol.com>, >> ekoerber@aol.com (EKoerber) wrote: >>> Yeah, but then we'd have to move to the land of fruits and nuts! (Hi Ed, so am i a fruit or a nut?) >> >> I'm a little more put off by the $300,000 2 bedroom houses and 2 hour >> commutes. > > $300,000? You're really out of touch. You can't buy a decent house for > $300K, even in Sunnyvale. Try doubling your estimate. I hear jokes about the $500K fixer-upper places. :-( > The commute isn't that bad though. If you can afford to live in Sunnyvale (or someplace along the new light rail line). The Lockheed Martin stop is open for business. I know people who commute 2 hours so they can afford a house. > Swinging back to Ada, I've never seen an Ada job advertised which paid a > competitive salary by Silicon Valley standards. I hope the unadvertised ones > pay well. I think that is one of the reasons Ada jobs are still available. On my project, 3 out of 4 of the Ada coders are contractors. Make that 3 out of 5, we have a brand new person just learning Ada. Some projects are going to C++ because they can find people with that on their resume. I don't think they pay any more, but they can find more people willing to take the job. The funny thing is, there seems to be a lot of turn over. With C++ and a year of experience, Netscape, Yahoo, Sisco Systems, etc. are willing to pay a lot more. I'm just amazed at how many good people are still around (contractor and direct). Money isn't everything, and i can't get excited about working on a new database after playing with stealth attack airplanes, battlefield command and control systems, nuclear attack submarines, missiles, and satellites. Even if they don't pay as well, Ada jobs are far more exciting! > -- Brian, looking for a house :-( --djk, resigned to living in an apartment :-( -- --djk, keeper of arcane lore & trivial fluff Home: David95037 at aol dot com Rot13: Qnivq95037@nby.pbz Spam: goto.hades@welovespam.com