From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,345a8b767542016e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-16 08:38:58 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail From: DPH Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: memory leakages with Ada? Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:39:12 -0500 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Message-ID: <00t69uso35hmunf5mpnfn37ggd9q59tctu@4ax.com> References: <3c90af1e@news.starhub.net.sg> <3c91bfa3.1987537@news.demon.co.uk> <3pm69u85j4h7efndahkean6trom5utk21m@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mid-tgn-mog-vty24.as.wcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: suaar1aa.prod.compuserve.com 1016296736 4284 216.192.75.24 (16 Mar 2002 16:38:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 16 Mar 2002 16:38:56 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:21336 Date: 2002-03-16T16:38:56+00:00 List-Id: On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:51:05 +0000 (UTC), Preben Randhol wrote: >On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:56:41 -0500, DPH wrote: >> >> this goes back to a post I made last month. I'm just wondering if Ada >> is all that much less error prone when you start comparing it with C++ >> development environments in the wildly popular platforms of Windows >> and Linux, but especially windows. There are just scads of tools to >> do about everything (except reliably find the memory leaks of C++, >> although there may be - and I just haven't run across it yet) and >> those tools are generally cheaper due to economy of scale. > >Ask yourself: Why do so many tools exist for C++? 'Cuz tthey're necessary. 'Cuz there's such a huge user base that they could make money on them even if they weren't necessary - they would still be convenient and therefore saleable. The question is - do they compensate enough for C++'s inherent tendancy to fool programmers into doing something ugly, coupled with the hoarde of people that know the language, to make them viable competiton for Ada in some limited programming environments like Windows and Unix/Linux? Can you get an equally reliable program from an experienced C++ prgrammer with sophisticated tools that you get from an experienced Ada programmer for which the same tools don't exist? Dave Head