From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: KMays@msn.com (Kenneth Mays) Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/09 Message-ID: <00001a73+00003a5e@msn.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 203155216 references: <32A4659D.347A@shef.ac.uk> <32A71BC6.2D857063@arscorp.com> <32A82AFE.255A@possibility.com> <58bq8c$3n6@news.utdallas.edu> <32AA207E.3199@deep.net> organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-12-09T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: I agree with the thread on the problems we have in the field of software engineering in OOT/OOP. You don't send students off to a four-year college to learn Pascal programming and then expect them to go into the work force programming in Smalltalk (I can't wait to see "Learn Smalltalk in 21 days"). Even C++ takes a different frame of mind than if you just came from a COBOL or RPG background. But, a lot of this doesn't matter becasue the field is diverse. A person picks up a language or two under his/her belt and that becomes their marketable skill. Lockheed Martim still hires people based on AI knowledge and LISP programming background. Some companies still hire 8051 programmers while some hire FORTRAN programmers. Then, you'll get asked if you know FORTRAN-77, FORTRAN IV, or FORTRAN-90 (when is FORTRAN FORTRAN?). We have that problem with Ada95 and Ada83, many engineers don't have a clue on what Ada95 is beacsue they are stuck on just knowing Ada83 and don't want to learn new languages. I don't think there is anything wrong with OOD/OOT/OOP since it is nothing new and Apple used the concepts back in the late 1980s. Are we just spinning our wheels argueing about something that won't go away anytime soon? Ken