From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,28e916a6ee5167b2,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: KMays@msn.com (Kenneth Mays) Subject: Real Life Ada Date: 1996/08/04 Message-ID: <00001a73+000030db@msn.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 172008943 organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-08-04T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Gretings, Well I have a comment about college and learning Ada. 1.) Get an idea of who you want to work for in the future. Lockheed-Martin, Northrop, or Ada Technologies? get a clear picture of the skills required and the courses that will help you "fit" within that job. 2.) College is to introduce you to concepts used in the real world - or should I be bold enough to say theories!!! They don't always work. If your a scientist or engineer (or both) nothing beats taking math courses and physics. Many computer science people started off as physics majors or math majors and then switched to computers. This is not always the case since some of the most creative programmers are graphics designers or musicians. This is just something to think about. John Madden isn't a programmer but he sure sponsors some great computer football games!! 3.) About Ada, I don't believe you should take Pascal or Data structures using Pascal to know Ada. If you want to know Ada, then learn Ada - period. If you want to know C++, you don't take COBOL programming courses - do you? Does everyone REALLY know assembly or took assembly courses (I did)? Focuses your skills on the language you want to use in the "real world" and don't waste your time and money on programming languages you don't have an interest in. No one language is the best choice in all situations. Question? Why in the heck do they teach Pascal or Data Structures? Does that make you a better programmer when you have to write in C ??? Are they teaching MUMPS or JAVA at your college/university??? Even though some can say "yes", I have college catalogs of some of America's top colleges and RARELY do I see courses where Java is a choice for a college course. heck, Visual Basic isn't even an option. I say this because the industry is using whatever it feels works. The point is to FOCUS on what you want to be a master at and stop asking what language is better than the other. Is the software from MicroSoft and Borland buggy becasue they didn't use Ada95 in their software development? Did their programmers not take the proper C++ programming courses in college, or they didn't take Advanced C++ programming so "oops" they can't write efficient code? Not enough math courses to think logically? Get real. Ada is nothing more than a programming language. In the write hands, it can make some darn good programs that are easy to read and comprehend. In the wrong hands, you'd asked yourself, "what in the heck was this person thinking?" So its not what you use, its HOW you use it to complete a task. So if your going to college, make sure you you take those courses that will help you use your tools effectively in today's market - and stop reading those "Ada95 for Dummies" books. Ken