From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e8ff1a583b894e29,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: KMays@msn.com (Kenneth Mays) Subject: Ada95: Around the world theories Date: 1996/04/02 Message-ID: <00001a73+00002c8b@msn.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 145408661 organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-04-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Greetings: Subject - Tools for the Ada95 programmer and the international job market Two new pointers to add to your list for Ada tools: 1. http://www.pcada.com/pcada - Home site for Visual Ada95 and IntegrAda for Windows95/NT. 2. http://www.ipbath.com/p4.html - Site for IPL's Ada95 software engineering tools. Some of the sites deal the IBM RS/6000 and specialized markets, but I consider the DOS/Windows environments the best since it allows for me to master these products at home - instead if at work!! I can't seem to get it through to some people but it is good to master products at home so you can be more productive at work - if using the same tools. Honestly, it is a pain to bring "Mastering GNAT in 21 days" books to work when I can do it at home. Now if I had a Sun UltraSparc workstation at home, then I could defend that market too (but lets be a little realistic). For those who are looking for jobs (aren't we always doing that) in other countries, Ada-Belgium is mentioning a job fair of sorts. Check them out. For those wishing to go to Canada (speak French do ya?) you should contact Ora-Canada (see postings). Ada-Spain was working on the list of jobs in Spain. The jobs in the UK and nearby countries are posted here. SigAda/AdaIC cover the majority of American markets. Hopefully, I can add more from Japan and Mexico. African areas are using GEOS (boy, this is an OLD OS since it is fundamentally Windows for small memory computers - it was a Commodore 64 OS replacement in the 80's, I still have Geoworks Ensemble somewhere). Australian and Singapore jobs are other areas of interest. Antartica or Iceland anyone? For those into Iceland culture and work, Icelandair is a place to start (Iceland's major airport branch near Keflavik, Iceland and a port at JFK airport in New York). I don't think anyone wants to go to Greenland (see Thule or Antartica related issues). A little April fools humor! Anyhow, Ada jobs are sprouting up in many countries as it is evangelized by programmers and universities. C++ will remain in its market share, just like COBOL. Like it or not, Ada95 is mainly a U.S. government programming language so you find your jobs in government or aviation related companies (no, I'm not talking just military or defense). Robotics and cybernetics might be a good place to start. I haven't researched how well Ada interfaces with Lisp and LOGO type programming languages, but I'm sure someone will find a way. Start with SigAda or AdaIC and branch out from there. Just a note to many Ada95 supporters: is it unreasonable to have Delphi programming experience since Ada95 is like a "big sister" to Pascal and Modula-3? Should our univerisities teach Pascal/Modula as as a step towards Ada95? Should we drop the traditional languages and only teach Lisp/LOGO, COBOL, RPG, C++, JAVA/VRML/HTML and Ada95 at our colleges (heck, throw in PILOT)? We support many academic or specialized computer languages, but what are the languages USED by the job market TODAY!?!? I think that is what most students want to know and should know. I think this is what those MBA students should realize in MIS courses. Ada95 is a general purpose language language, but it was geared for a specific purpose (embedded systems). Do you use Ada95 over LISP/LOGO when it comes to AI work or turtle graphics? How about saying "Hello World." Is that in BASIC, Visual BASIC, Delphi, or C++? If you or anyone you know wants a REAL job being a programmer - remind them its not how many languages you know, but which ones you need to know to a REAL job. When is knowing just C/C++ enough to get by?!? -Ken