From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-01 08:21:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn11feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.gbronline.com!news.gbronline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 10:21:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 10:22:14 -0500 From: Wesley Groleau Reply-To: wesgroleau@despammed.com Organization: Ain't no organization here! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, es-mx, pt-br, fr-ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died) References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304240446.493ca906@posting.google.com> <3EA7E0E3.8020407@crs4.it> <9fa75d42.0304240950.45114a39@posting.google.com> <4a885870.0304291909.300765f@posting.google.com> <416273D61ACF7FEF.82C1D1AC17296926.FF0BFD4934A03813@lp.airnews.net> <9fa75d42.0305010621.55e99deb@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: <9fa75d42.0305010621.55e99deb@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <0-WcnWfafqsNpiyjXTWcqw@gbronline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.117.18.74 X-Trace: sv3-iNKBPuiu4HnEmbqalPjr44DdjXsIebM+M0sqrC1syiqvwzyv7Np2c946RramIsL8N7C5nNolziirSwE!8NGq9MqbzSKefdO1a8OryN6s7HwzyEVXHWwMdv7dq0JSKfRD0Alw9sdSADQL/wJqq+lbQocYpHle!CfxD X-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:62983 comp.object:62471 comp.lang.ada:36810 Date: 2003-05-01T10:22:14-05:00 List-Id: > That having said, if you cannot hire well, a good type > safe language might help in eliminating smaller > errors. But then, you are never going to have No, because the incompetent programmers will make everything 'int' or 'double' without taking steps to handle/catch the problems this causes. > If you can hire well, a super-strong type safe > language will only annoy your best programmers, > who don't need the type safety to avoid bugs > but have to work around it for all the things > that they do need to do. You can still deliver What a crock. Nothing stops these guys from declaring everything as "float" and wasting hours handling problems that the compiler could have handled. If there are no such problems ....