From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e82ea8a472e88bd7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.megapath.net!news.megapath.net.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:04:49 -0500 From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <1145343273.557453.50910@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <15rtl3-d12.ln1@newserver.thecreems.com> Subject: Re: ada IDE Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:05:37 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Message-ID: <-LednbEobo6syA7ZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@megapath.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.32.209.38 X-Trace: sv3-SlziDLvNAZd8NwpXDIEHdBbifKmf/KEU5PXuX0V2t+5XrMc6OmxR3qlnDfFS07QWdo2u0mszHSwYYeP!e34wwVU4NwmA8mnK/kgBHqErm/Pzw1olUr1fmSI795m48W3wGJixFlsi1ce8X2bwv+u9dlmpB59r!4Hwmd05SABH9Jw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@megapath.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@megapath.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:4799 Date: 2006-06-16T20:05:37-05:00 List-Id: "Jeffrey Creem" wrote in message news:15rtl3-d12.ln1@newserver.thecreems.com... ... > So, all-in-all I think I stand by my original list which excluded IBM > Apex. If the poster had just asked for "list some Ada IDEs" then maybe I > would have listed them even giving the general concerns I have with the > vendor. I wouldn't have been *quite* so negative. The technical team for Apex is intact and continuing development of their products. (Their participation in the ARG and in the ARA should make that clear.) The problem is that they don't have *anyone* assigned to marketing/selling Ada at IBM. (The last dedicated Ada sales guy left last summer.) It's a side project for anyone in sales there, and thus it's visibility is very low. The question comes down to buying the technical team. I don't know of many better than that at IBM/Rational for Ada, and their support is reported to be excellent (my own experiences with Claw agreed with that). Randy Brukardt.