From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,899fc98b2883af4a X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-15 09:34:04 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail From: tmoran@acm.org Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: theAda mandate, and why it collapsed and died)) References: X-Newsreader: Tom's custom newsreader Message-ID: <%jPwa.596900$OV.564687@rwcrnsc54> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.234.13.56 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1053016443 12.234.13.56 (Thu, 15 May 2003 16:34:03 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:34:03 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:34:03 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63850 comp.object:63474 comp.lang.ada:37354 misc.misc:14202 comp.software-eng:19208 Date: 2003-05-15T16:34:03+00:00 List-Id: >> There was not only a 640 kb limit, there were some 64 kb limits >> on the size of memory segments in most of the PC software prior to >> 1987. I don't recall ever seeing an Ada product or tool that would >> run on an 8086 or 8088 without special hardware added. Were there >> any? > >I had the Janus Ada compiler running on a 386SX in the late 80s, and >taught my then-15-year-old son to write Ada, while I was using DEC Ada >at work. I still have a copy on my old Toshiba 3100 portable (286, 640K). No special hardware. It would produce either .com (64K, "small memory model") or .exe ("large memory model") executables. > >Later, there was the Meridian compiler than ran on standard PC hardware >(still late 80s or before 1992, I don't remember exactly).. Compuserve at one point had an Ada study group. I got my Macintosh Meridian Ada compiler at that time and ported the DOS Janus Ada program that I mentioned earlier.