From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-02 00:01:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!feed.textport.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!iad-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: How to make Ada a dominant language Message-ID: <$YrUPHc6C3IT@eisner.encompasserve.org> References: <3B6555ED.9B0B0420@sneakemail.com> <9k3l9r$10i2$1@pa.aaanet.ru> <3B656345.64AB603A@sneakemail.com> <9k3oa1$2qg8$1@pa.aaanet.ru> <3B657715.7EC592D9@sneakemail.com> <3B659726.33E301CA@san.rr.com> <9kae23$38a$1@news-central.tiac.net> Organization: LJK Software Date: 2 Aug 2001 03:01:06 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.44.122.34 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: iad-read.news.verio.net 996735677 216.44.122.34 (Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:01:17 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 07:01:17 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11040 Date: 2001-08-02T03:01:06-05:00 List-Id: In article <9kae23$38a$1@news-central.tiac.net>, "David Starner" writes: > Darren New wrote in message > news:3B659726.33E301CA@san.rr.com... >>> �Don't use C; In my opinion, C is a library programming language >>> not an app programming language.� - Owen Taylor (GTK+ developer) >> >> C is a sucky library programming language as well. Less sucky than a lot >> of other things, but the lack of any sort of first-class non-primitive >> data really bites for library development. (I.e., the fact that you >> can't return a string is quite a hinderance to most of the libraries I >> tend to write.) > > But it has the huge advantage of having the stablest, standardist binary API I am not at all convinced that most standard goes with most stable. You should add some proof. > on most systems, and being useable from almost every programming language in > active use. Often, the only safe way to connect to systems in the same > language compiled by different compilers is through a C interface. And "often" operating systems come from Microsoft. Ada also has standardized interfaces to Fortran and Cobol. But on VMS there is a common calling standard for all languages. I don't mean to slight any other operating systems that are language-neutral, but the idea that interfaces between languages might use null-terminated strings is like passing the cup around to make sure _everybody_ gets typhoid. Pointer arithmetic is the wave of the past.